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12/11/03  Officer C Reports

Here's
a list of cars that can out run the new CNG Ford Crown Victoria Interceptor patrol cars.
 

Model

0-60 Acceleration Horespower & Torque

Acura TSX

7 seconds

200 / 166

Audi S4 Quattro

5 seconds

340

Mazda RX-8

7 seconds

238 / 164

Honda Prius

11 seconds

 

Saturn Ion

6 seconds

200 / 200

Volkswagen Passat W-8

7 seconds

270 / 273

Suzuki Verona

10 seconds

155 / 177

Pontiac Grand Prix GT-2

8 seconds

200 / 230

Honda Accord EX V-6

6 seconds

240 / 212

Honda Civic Hybrid

11 seconds

 

Ford Focus ZX5

9 seconds

130 / 135

Kia Rio

10 seconds

96 / 98

Hyundai Sonata GLS

9 seconds

181 / 177

Mazda Prot??/td>

10 seconds

130 / 135

Saturn Vue

10 seconds

138 / 145

Dodge Neon SRT-4

6 seconds

215 / 245

Dodge Neon R/T

8 seconds

150 / 162

Lexus IS300

8 seconds

 

 


Most notable is the Honda Civic Hybrid and the Toyota Prius, which are hybrid gas and electric vehicles. All statistics were gleaned, with must patience and a headache, from internet car reviews and magazine sites. Most car makers don't publish their 0-60 acceleration statistics. I rounded up the figures in most cases, just for ease of comparison. So, these cars are actually a little faster than I'm claiming here. I provided horsepower and torque when I could find the information.
 

Citizens keep stopping me and asking me what the big deal is about the performance of these patrol vehicles. I tell them that a car chase isn't about the high speed. It's about trying to close the gap on a vehicle that often makes quick turn after quick turn. We need good acceleration to catch up to the suspects.

In a car chase, the suspect will rapidly accelerate from turn to turn. I need all the power I can to catch up. If I lose sight of the suspect, the chase is over and the bad guy gets away. We don't just chase stolen cars. Robbery suspects, murder suspects, and burglars are just a few of the people who are routinely chased down by police.

The police helicopter often helps police keep sight of the suspect in a chase. Patrol officers really appreciate the help, but Dallas only puts one helicopter in the sky. It's stationed in Southwest, just off of Marvin D. Love and Hampton. That's not very much help if your an officer in a CNG patrol vehicle in Northeast Dallas in a car chase with a bank robbery suspect.
  Aren Cambre:
  
I noticed a possible error in Officer's piece where he says that the brakes will be worse in CNG-retrofitted vehicles. You may want him to double-check his information. Brakes are ?powered? off engine vacuum, and I have never heard that CNG has a major effect on engine vacuum.
   I wonder if he says this because engine vacuum goes to zero during full-throttle acceleration, and weakened cars will require more full throttle acceleration. However, once the driver releases the gas pedal, the engine vacuum suddenly snaps to full vacuum, immediately ?re-energizing? the power brake booster.
  
 You may have noticed my Letter to the Editor concerning CNG retrofits in the 12-10-03 DMN. It?s the very last letter on the web version.
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Retrofit silver lining
   The Dallas City Council may have done motorists a huge favor. By slowing down Dallas Police Department cruisers with natural gas retrofits, they may force the police to stop over-enforcing Dallas' arbitrarily low speed limits.
  
Aren Cambre, Dallas
 
Officer C responds:
  
The gas powered Crown Victoria Police Interceptor will decelerate from 60-0 in an average of 145.4 feet, with an average deceleration rate of 26.64 feet per seconds squared. The CNG powered Crown Victoria Police Interceptor will decelerate from 60-0 in an average of 148.3 feet, with an average deceleration of 26.12 feet per seconds squared.

   This may seem like a trivial amount. It's only three feet. But consider this, three feet from the driver's side door is the middle of the passenger seat. I won't say that's a deadly collision, but I wouldn't volunteer to be the test dummy.
   The other thing to consider, during any kind of hard driving that I may perform during my shift my brakes are worked hard. They get softer and softer throughout the drive. When I exit my vehicle after a hard drive, the first thing I notice is the strong smell of the brakes overheating.
   The brakes on my squad car are not maintained as well as I would like. I don't need any kind of handicap to my car. CNG cars are a big handicap, no matter how you look at them.

   I hope this is an adequate response for Aren. Thanks for publishing my email so quickly. Too bad the council didn't debate this issue a little longer. Ignorance is the greatest enemy of the public good.


I guess we can all feel safe, with Councilwoman Finkleman's assurance that "Once they're moving, they're going to move as fast as anyone else does. This is a step forward and a good way to go." After all, she must be an expert, right?

Here's my educated guess as to the outcome of this ill-informed move by the council:

1 The city will pay out millions in settlements over suspects who escaped and committed later crimes,
2 The city will pay out millions in lawsuits from citizens over the increased accidents, and
   
3 The city will pay out millions in lawsuits from police officers either injured, or God forbid, killed in the accidents caused by these vehicles.



How will these vehicles cause more accidents? Officers will have no acceleration to move out of the way of a vehicle. The braking power on these vehicles is diminished. An officer expects the brakes to work within a certain distance by habit and training. When the brakes don't work properly, accidents happen.

I am concerned with officer's safety above all. Not too many weeks ago, I called for an assist. I didn't call for cover. I screamed into the radio for help. Everyone who wasn't in the middle of a call dropped everything and sped my way. I was in a fight for my life. Just five seconds after the first officer arrived, my partner and I were able to subdue the suspect.

Five seconds.

We were on a back street. There was no direct route to our location.

I now wonder, given the number of turns made by each of those officers, how long would it have taken help to arrive if everyone was driving CNG vehicles. I am thankful they were not. 

Otherwise, you would all be writing stories about two young officers killed in their prime.

I hope this information is helpful. As always, I ask that you not use my name if you can avoid it. I appreciate the help the officers of DPD receive from your various articles on our department. Thank you for your time.

 

 




 

 
 

                                        

    





                            

 

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