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Councilwoman Angela Hunt
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06/12/06 What a shocker!
Is it possible that Our Downtown Betters (the ODB) will finally have to deal
with reality? That just because they want something ridiculous doesn't
mean they get it?
DallasArena.com has opposed the Trinity
Project from the get-go. It is (and was from the beginning) a
complete boondoggle, or bondoogle, as we like to refer to it. They
have been calling a land grab and real estate development scheme a flood
control project, when in reality it will cause more flooding than we
have ever experienced. (See
Devil Creek
by Jim Schutze, DallasObserver.com, 3/30/06).
The only reason why we even need suspension bridges (not necessarily
Calatrava's String Things) is because the dim wits behind the Trinity
Project didn't do their hydraulic testing before they sent out their
deceptive campaign brochures in 1998. To do their channeling and
make room for their tollroads will force that muddy sludge into a deep
and narrow route that will make the river flow so fast in a storm that
it will tear out the pier supports of our historic viaducts. |
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06/12/06 James
Northrup:
If the proposed Calatrava bridge can simply be redesigned to
cost half as much as the bids for the original design, then it follows
the bridge cost at least twice as much as it should have in the first
place.
Meaning,
the original design was at least 50% bling, 50% bridge.
Maybe now it's more bridge than bling. Or not.
Only a structural engineer would
know for sure. Why not ask one, so we know how
much bling we're getting with our bridge.
Or how much bridge we're getting
for our bling.
Really puts it in perspective -
particularly for the bridges that don't need
to be replaced at all. Do the
math on 4.6 acres (43,560 square feet per acre) at $75Million on the
Deck(ard) Vibrating Park. |
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Rather than find a sensible
designer who could get them a functional and attractive suspension bridge, the
ODB had to have a designer bridge. Like all their other promises, three
designer bridges would be the ticket that lures tourists to Dallas. The
same no-show tourists who are not coming to town to see the Nasher Collection.
The bridge we really need to improve is the one at I-35E, and there's no money
for it.
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Trinity bridge bids
far exceed budget;
Dallas: City refuses
to go over, will ask Calatrava for scaled-back design
Thursday, June 8, 2006
by EMILY RAMSHAW / The Dallas Morning News |
Construction
bids for the first of three skyscraping bridges planned to span the Trinity
River came in at twice the budgeted price Thursday, leaving Dallas
officials with two options: raise the extra funds or go back to the drawing
board.
Dismayed city officials said Thursday
evening that they would not break the bank, and instead would ask the
bridge's designer ? world-renowned architect Santiago Calatrava ? to make
major, cost-saving revisions.
... "We're going to build a bridge, a Calatrava
bridge. But we're not going to spend any more money than we've got to build
it," City Manager Mary Suhm said. "We have a contract with Calatrava that
says he will design a bridge for our available resources. If this bridge
doesn't meet our budget, he'll redesign it."
Mr. Calatrava,
along with city consultants, originally estimated the 1,800-foot Woodall
Rodgers "signature" span would cost up to $57 million. The lowest of
three bids unsealed by the Texas Department of Transportation on Thursday
was $113 million.
... Experts blame the difference and the
relatively low number of bids on soaring prices for steel, concrete and
fuel, as well as the risks associated with building a
one-of-a-kind architectural feat.
Others say Mr.
Calatrava has a reputation for breaking budgets. The Milwaukee art
museum he designed ended up costing nearly four times
its original estimate. A footbridge for Turtle Bay Exploration Park
in Redding, Calif., came in almost 70 percent over
budget, according to local media reports.
And some advocates of the downtown
parks project fear the unexpected costs could
jeopardize construction of a second planned Calatrava bridge at Interstate
30 and foil plans for a third Interstate 35E bridge altogether.
... When Mr. Calatrava's firm and city consultants
came up with their most recent price estimate in the fall of 2005, they
tried to take rising steel prices into account, Trinity River Project
Director Rebecca Dugger said. Mr. Calatrava made cost-saving changes to the
Woodall Rodgers and I-30 bridges, including replacing steel decks with
concrete decks, and welded connections with bolts. The
I-35E bridge ? the third and costliest ? has not yet been designed or
funded.
... In March, a high-ranking individual close to the project told The
Dallas Morning News that Dallas would never get a $57 million bid. The
official said the city would be lucky to get one between $75 million and $85
million and that it would probably be closer to $100 million.
... Ms. Dugger said she was very disappointed with
the bids. She said it's unclear how much Mr. Calatrava would need to change
? somewhere between minor tweaks and a complete overhaul.
Such changes could include scaling
down the project's height "from 400 feet to 300, or even 250," Ms. Dugger
said, and making it less complex.
... It's a trend Ken Simonson, chief economist for
the Associated General Contractors of America, sees every day: government
agencies struggling with broken budgets in their construction projects.
... "As contractors look at what they are being
called on to do, they may have quite a different idea about time and
equipment than the architect, who doesn't actually do the building," Mr.
Simonson said.
... Mr. Calatrava's designs use techniques and
materials many local contractors haven't worked with before.
Steve Owen, a spokesman for Traylor
Bros., ... acknowledged that the complexity of the
project could have bumped up the estimate.
... Ms. Suhm said. "Even the cost of doing a
plain-Jane TxDOT bridge has gone up 35 or 40 percent."
The $57 million
set aside for construction of the Woodall Rodgers bridge includes
$28 million from the city's 1998 bond program,
a $12 million donation from Hunt Petroleum and
$8 million from federal transportation
appropriations. The remaining $9 million comes from a combination of state
and regional grants and other contributions.
Trinity Trust Foundation President
Gail Thomas said she had remained optimistic about the cost ? until she got
word of the bids.
... "But we're committed, and we're going to build
this bridge."
She said
raising more private dollars to meet the new price tag is out of the
question, ... she vowed that the city would
still get two Calatrava bridges ? though most officials agree
the fate of the third is up in the air.
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This is not surprising to
everyone. Jim Schutze has told me several times over the past several
years that they didn't have the money to do the bridges. You can't do the
Trinity Project without the suspension bridges. If they don't have the
money for one suspension bridge, they certainly cannot do three.
If they can't do the String Thing Bridges, or some lesser suspension bridges,
the Trinity Project is in serious trouble.
If the Trinity Project is in serious trouble, we may actually have enough money
to do some stuff in this city that really needs doing.
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Unfair Park: The Dallas
Observer Blog;
Calatrava is Spanish for ?Over Budget?
6/09/06 |
Two hours
north of Sacramento, California, is a town called
Redding, which bills itself as ?California?s
Natural Getaway.? Among its points of interest are
the Turtle Bay Exploration Park, the Lake Shasta
Caverns, Lassen Volcanic National Park and other
man-made attractions. Chief among the latter is
Sundial Bridge at Turtle Bay, which is described
as ?a beautiful, unique pedestrian bridge that
crosses the Sacramento River and connects the
nationally-designated trail system in Redding,
California, with the Turtle Bay Exploration Park and
McConnell Arboretum.? Fact is, the thing actually
looks like a sundial; odd how that works out, innit?
And, of course, you can guess by now who designed
the thing: Santiago Calatrava, the man whose
$57 million bridge to nowhere
is actually going to cost the city no less than $113
million,
says today?s
Dallas Morning News.
... this ain?t the first
time Calatrava has coughed up a project that cost
millions and millions more than a city could afford;
Milwaukee will never forget the day it hooked up
with the architect whose whimsical (and, say it,
cheap-looking) creations bear a staggering price
tag. And neither will Redding, though it seems some
in that town had no problem with spending
$23.5 million on a
flimsy-feeling bridge that was originally supposed
to cost?this can?t be right?$3 million.
... Eleven years ago, a
guy named John Mancasola and something called the
McConnell Foundation called Calatrava in Switzerland
to see if he?d build ?em a bridge that would get
locals?and out-of-towners, especially?to ?revise
their views of Redding,? as
Searchlight
reporter Scott Mobley put it in his piece.
?Mancasola and a few others were obsessed with
bridges,? .... Anyway,
Calatrava turns in his design in 1997, the Redding
city council goes nuts for the thing and figure
it?ll cost $5 mil and take a year to build. Yeah.
Right. Construction finally began in November 1999,
and by then the cost of the thing was touching the
$13 mil figure. City officials asked the architect
to scale back his design. Like
that was gonna
happen:
?Calatrava sacrificed a reflective pond at the
bridge pylon?s base. He gave up a slimmer deck
truss profile for value-engineering?s sake.
But
the architect pushed hard for steel over the
concrete some believed would save dollars,
Mancasola said. Calatrava demanded rammed earth
walkways around the plaza on the north bank over
the less expensive asphalt Turtle Bay officials
proposed. He was adamant that cracked ceramic
tiles cover every inch of concrete on the
bridge, including the granite plaza below the
pylon.
The
construction site sat empty behind its orange
snow fencing much of 2001.?
Blahblahblah, thing finally gets built by 2003 and
costs about seven times what it was supposed to. And
the architect Mayor Laura says will rework Dallas?
Trinity River project didn?t do a much to keep it on
the cheap. No surprise there: What architect wants a
monument to his greatness built with copper when
there?s platinum to be had? Anyway, this is what
Mancasola told Mobley about the cost overrun after
the Sundial was finally completed, some eight years
after it was but a dream:
??You
agonize over the cost increases. But I have to
say, just being out on that bridge, seeing it
for the first time, was pretty awe-inspiring.
Whether in the final analysis it was worth
it?that?s for future generations to decide.??
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?Robert
Wilonsky
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I'm as excited about this
development as the ODB are concerned and worried.
The Lord moves in mysterious ways. And, Lord knows this city needs a lot
of things more than one or more String Thing Bridges.
There's another problem for the ODB. Where's the money coming from for the Woodall Rogers Lid/Park? We
know that Son of a Bigamist Ray Hunt is not going to fund it.
Things are looking up for Dallas taxpayers. Not because our civic leaders
and elected officials have come to their senses, but because the prima donna who
has won their collective ODB heart can't design anything within a budget. |
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06/12/06
Stan Aten:
I would think the same elements driving up the cost for
building the "fancy" bridges will do the
same thing to the cost of the Trinity Tollroad,
which is still not completely funded. The toll road is also
made of steel, concrete and requires fuel to build.
Wonder what the NTTA has to say about
these costs?
If you look at the financials
for the NTTA, income is rising slower than expenses and borrowing.
Things look OK for now,
but will the tolls have to increase faster
when these projects are completed?
With rising gas prices,
traffic may decrease
in some parts of the region. A hurricane hitting Houston or
Western Gulf oil platforms like last year,
and we could see gasoline peak at $4 or
more this Fall.
Instead of pouring more funds into highways, this region
needs build more light rail and expand bus service to prepare for
the day when private cars
are only used for special occasions due to
rising fuel cost.
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Calatrava thinks like most politicians -- we can always tap the taxpayer for
more. After all, Joe Taxpayer has no right to spend his money on
things he wants and needs -- not when the ODB (mostly Park Cities residents)
have plans for spending Joe Taxpayer's money on stuff they want, but don't
really need.
| I've got news for Gail Thomas, folks at City Hall and the ODB (the ultimate
deciders). Dallas voters are not going to support more money for those
stupid String Thing Bridges. We have council and mayoral elections in May
2007. Nobody is going to run on a platform of supporting $350 million or
more for those 3 bridges. If the first one is over $100 million and it's
the smallest and least needed, the next two will be at least $150 million each,
and likely more with Calatrava's history of budget overruns.
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06/12/06
Rad Field
The Grassy Hat Over Woodall
In view of the past, current and
future forecasted water shortages in the Dallas area,
how does the City Of Dallas plan to WATER all the vegetation
on the "Grassy Hat" over Woodall Rogers
Freeway? Perhaps the area will be covered with Astro Turf or cement
with stones to conserve water.
It is also unclear as to who will
prance around on the "Grassy Hat" during the 100?+
days in Dallas. It is doubtful the Ritz Carlton tenants will be using
the area as a sun tan facility.
For $75,000,000, the cost of the
"Park", one could build a mini Carlton complete with air conditioning
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We don't need a foreigner designing Dallas, Texas bridges. If they abandon
all that nonsense they have planned for the Trinity corridor, we don't need new
bridges at all. TXDOT needs to step in and tell the ODB and City Hall
official that they have delayed this enough, and it's time to get to work on
something sensible and affordable.
Inadvertently, Calatrava is turning out to be a friend of Joe Taxpayer.
His extravagance has put the String Thing Bridges out of reach, which puts the
Trinity Project in a precarious position.
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